Take-Two CEO Strauss Zelnick likes to talk and criticize Game Pass and similar subscription services whenever he gets the chance. Zelnick, who also missed the opportunity at Take-Two’s fiscal year meeting, once again expressed that his views on not adding new games to subscription services such as Game Pass have not changed.

“Our views on this have changed. We think the subscription model makes sense for older catalog games. But it certainly doesn’t make sense for new games. For a business model to make sense in the entertainment world, it needs to work for both the creators of that entertainment and the consumers of that entertainment. The addition of catalog games to services can be meaningful for publishers, and it can also make sense for enthusiastic consumers who want access to a large number of products. But if you’re putting a new game into this system, it’s much, much harder to make sense of the economic side.”

Consumption habits on streaming services that offer line-up entertainment, such as Netflix, are very different from interactive entertainment, Zelnick says.

“In line-up entertainment, consumers consume, say, 150 hours of programming per month, which is probably for more than 100 different names. In interactive entertainment, consumers consume, for example, 45 hours a month, but this is for one, two, maybe four games. So it’s definitely not 100 games. In other words, from a consumer point of view, we can say that these subscription models are also meaningless for most consumers.”

Despite these explanations, Zelnick says, they’re open-minded about it, offering catalog games to subscription services, and even offering some new games, albeit rarely. One of them must be Grand Theft Auto V. The game, which was added and removed in time for Game Pass, and then re-added, will be out of service again soon.

But it’s possible to draw from these statements that Take-Two has no intention of giving its relatively new games to services like Game Pass.